MeanGene

Sorry for late reply @Blaze269

Does this help?

Mine is a fan made sculpt I did about 10 years ago. I made it to what I felt 1:1 size would be. Maybe a bit larger.

No luck moving forward on this yet. I am so busy its hard to invest the time. 3 kids and I run my own business with large projects and clients.

The latex firstly needs to be molded so a hard plastic version can be made to sculpt from.
Its a multi step process, lots of time and material will need to be invested. The cards need to set right on the table for this to go and go well.

I have a sculptor in mind who is interested, but I need to do the leg work to get the sculpting base made.

I like the idea of the hot glue swimming pool filled with epoxy. Very robust. 👍

Welcome guys. Thanks for being a part of the message board. It's tends to be a bit quiet here with most of our activity being on FB.

Please feel free to use this website to store all your suit build progress while you share the journey. 👍

Chuck Ruffing makes what you need..hit him up on Facebook.

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Definitely the same mask! The added section is either fan made or Morris costumes made.

Funny how it all seems to point back to a faceless P1 head.

Most definitely. 👍 I need the same for my own purposes.

This has been on my to-do list for a long long time. Just can't find the time to tackle it.

Been thinking I need to call in backup. But not sure who...

It will get done.

Welcome back. Your board name seems familiar to me, although that was so long ago and my memory is foggy 

Glad to have you and looking forward to your new suit build. Be sure to post a suit build thread on the site.

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Excellent information ! Thank you for taking the time. This will prove handy on some quick turnaround and inexpensive molds.

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Merry belated Christmas to you as well and happy New Year.

The Lair is approaching its 3rd year of rebirth. We have come quite a long way.

Thanks for being a part of it. 👍

On 10/31/2023 at 12:38 PM, MeanGene said:

 

For $10 bucks. Worth a try.  "Black Silver" 

Its a static cling attachment type of material. Not sure how that will work. We shall see.
Can always glue it somehow?

Quick update.

The Amazon stick on window tint.

Complete garbage. Not well suited for using on bio lenses.

Hi EvilJ. Welcome! 

We have a resident expert here who may be able to help. 

Electronics is her specialty.

@Eiluj 

Welcome back! Glad to have you. Seems like you are busy at work and well on your way with these builds!

Don't be shy about making a suit build thread and continually posting your progress. We love that kind of action here.

Be sure to join our Facebook group. There is a lot of activity there also.

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4 hours ago, Turukeya said:

It's the glycerin in the acrylic paint that attracts water so in turn oxygen to react with the silicone. If you use too much it makes it not stick anymore.  On the subject of adding paint to ge1 100% silicone caulk, you can use a very little spray paint without changing the curing or sticking properties like I did with red to pat down my skull and spine made out of a funnel (beer bong) for fresh blood. Another trick to make molds cheaply is use a small kit of an expensive silicone for your beauty coat and second coat. Let your completely. Then add both layers with ge1 at no thicker than a quarter inch per coat. Let each coat completely cure a day or two before putting a new one.

Thanks for the tips.

Are you saying that a product like smooth on silicone can be coated with tube silicone? How well do they bond?

I would assume they are different chemical mixtures and may not bond well?

Any chance you have pictures of these processes?

Any update on this project @Invisible Killer

Welcome to the community. Be sure to join our Facebook costume group page. Lots of daily activity there. 👍👍

Thank you sir. I'm glad this place still exists and we are all here to enjoy it. It's a fun corner of the internet.

Wow! The amount of patience this project must require. 

Printing molds was a smart trick and I'm sure silicone is a great choice for the dreds.

The time you've put into this is well worth it. The level of detail perfectly matches the movie.

Happy Thanksgiving! Thanks for being a part of the community here. 👍👍

Chuck Ruffing is the man to talk to.

https://www.facebook.com/chuck.ruffing.96?mibextid=ZbWKwL

Welcome! Long star hunters group is the place to go. James Reyes is the leader of the group and a diehard fan.

Find them on FB here.

https://www.facebook.com/lonestarhunters?mibextid=ZbWKwL

For $10 bucks. Worth a try.  "Black Silver" 

Its a static cling attachment type of material. Not sure how that will work. We shall see.
Can always glue it somehow?

On 10/29/2023 at 10:23 AM, Hez said:

That's looking good Gene. For the lenses I'd probably go with a black chrome look to break up the silver. A mid or light grey tint acrylic with some mirror tint applied to the back of it would be my choice. Or a gold maybe? Hmm. Now I want to play around with my chrome bio.

Thank you sir.

Its funny how we inspire one another. When I feel flat, I check out other artists like yourself and get that spark again.

I agree. I think I am going black lenses. 
And thanks for reminding me about the window tint method. Forgot about  that!

This project started with my acquiring a Silicone mold for sale. The mold was from a Brandon Croslin sculpture of a P1 bio.
The sculpture appears to have lineage with George's fabled P1 Stunt bio. (P1 stunt - original helmet from the movie castings taken directly from the mold made by stan winston)

I spoke with Brandon about the helmet and its origins. He stated the helmet was a sculpt from around 2012 or so, he sold a few and then sold the mold off to Julie Spehar. Julie has since sold it to me.

The helmet is a very nice sculpt. Very symmetrical. The typical warped eyes and back fins have been corrected.
The only downside to the bio was the  surface was quite lumpy. Not a knock to Brandon at all. 
The surface was begging for body work - bondo and sanding.

Below:
George's P1 Stunt (left) & Croslin's raw casting (right) 
 

Now begins the work.

The bio needing body work, something I have not done before to a high degree.
I wanted it to be completely smooth, like a chrome bumper or more specifically like the silver surfer.
Was definitely apprehensive about being able to pull it off and for that reason I decided to challenge myself. 
"Battle damage bios are easy" Perfectly clean, not so much.

Bondo/Sanding:


Got a variety of sand paper with the intention of wet sanding this to a high gloss finish.

In the end I didn't touch the 3000.

I used 220 grit a lot at the start to take down any initial high spots.
From there I bondo'd the surface to even it out.

Below:
One of MANY coats of bondo. Probably 5-6 time I would add bondo to various areas.
Including the eyes.


Spreading bondo on. Sanding it off. 
Spray a coat of primer. <- This shows you the imperfections.
Then Adding more bondo. Sanding it back again.
Each time using various grits of sand paper and water.
Primer was helpful in seeing imperfections.


Water was key when sanding. It prevented any heat from building up on the surface and also washed away any dust.
Watch Youtube for videos on how to wet sand.

Below:
Wet sanded bio and various coats of primer.

Wet sanding was now DONE!

The next step was a proper base layer of primary to have one even surface.

That primer was then wet sanded back to a smooth finish and a coat of Gloss Enamel Black was sprayed.
10$ Can of paint available at home depot.


I was tempted to leave it black but it was now time for the Rustoleum Silver paint.

Here are the results

Am I happy? Yes.

Is it perfect? No. But then again nothing is.
It has some small snot marks from the spray nozzle as the silver paint came out. Will clean those up later.

Overall I am happy with the finish and will be moving on to lenses, lasers, and the greeble pieces.

I am thinking black chrome lenses, to break up all the silver?

OR

Do I get some high reflective chrome? 

Will update more as it progresses.

Thanks for reading.

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